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The Mary Rose - My 2nd Journey Back In Time

9/7/2013

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The other week I visited the new Mary Rose Museum in Portsmouth.   In my lifetime, I have visited three historic ships; HMS Victory,  HMS Warrior and the Mary Rose.  This would be my second visit to the Mary Rose.  The first time I was just fourteen. 

As I gazed around in awe at the beautiful wreck, I noted that the old girl's bones were looking a lot better since having been sprayed for so many years with the `Peg' solution, in order to halt her decay,

The hollow sound of my own footsteps on the wooden decking caught my attention, and it took me back to  my first visit to see HMS Victory.

I had a very unusual experience when walking around that ship.  I can only describe it as an overwhelming feeling of Déjà vu.  It wasn't your usual run-of-the-mill Déjà vu though; I was able to guide my mother and father around the ship, knowing instinctively where everything was - the cabins, the galley, the gun decks, the stores, I knew where they were located.  Almost thirty years later and I still wonder to this day, if I could have been experiencing past life memories.
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Sceptics, psychologists and scientists etc., would say that I must have subconsciously picked up and stored this information from elsewhere; TV, books, school lessons etc., and I wouldn't rule it out but I can't help but doubt it.  I went back to HMS Victory five years ago and was still able to find my way around almost instinctively.

My second experience with an equally fascinating and historic vessel, was to be the Mary Rose, in the purposely built museum.  I had no feelings of Déjà vu or (possible) past-life flashbacks this time, but it did have quite a profound effect on me.
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It's a strange feeling looking into the empty, bony, eye-sockets belonging to what was once a living, human being.  Inside the museum there is an exhibit containing a wax work model of the man that this skull belonged to.  The model was so eerily life-like that it gave me quite a startle when I first saw it.  There stood the man, reconstructed by expert facial anthropologists and forensic artists with such incredible skill. He really was so incredibly life-like that I expected him to move at any second.
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This unfortunate soul's remains were discovered underneath a gun carriage, where he was trapped  - as the ship went down.

Next to him is his actual skeleton.  It gave me a real sense of the reality of this man's existence and an uncomfortable, almost empathic, sense of his terrifying last moments as the ship began to sink.
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The Mary Rose was a warship belonging to the English Tudor Navy of King Henry VIII.

She had served for 33 years, fighting in several wars against Brittany, France and Scotland.

Exact details of her last moments are sketchy but it is known that on 19th of July 1545, she was engaged in an attack against the French fleet. 

The theory goes that the ship was actually undamaged. She is thought to have fired from one side and then turned very sharply to fire cannons from the other side.  Well, she had an extra set of cannons installed on the lower deck near the water line.  The combination of the combined weight of her massive crew and heavy cannons made her lean over too far, allowing the Solent to spill through the lower gun hatches.

In minutes she was sinking to the murky depths of the Solent, close to the Isle of Wight.  

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According to contemporary records, only 35 men survived the disaster. Henry VIII is said to have watched with horror, from his castle in Southsea, as the disaster unfolded.  It is said that the cries of the trapped and drowning men and boys could be heard from the mainland.
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Over four hundred years later, in 1971, she was discovered and in 1982, the Mary Rose Trust, managed to salvage her.

The Mary Rose captured both the imagination and the fascination of the public and historians, alike, throughout the world.  It was a beautifully preserved time capsule; furnished like an Aladdin's cave, full of amazing Tudor artefacts.

For her time and throughout many decades the Mary Rose was one of the biggest ships in the English navy.  An early example of purpose-built warship and the first to feature gun ports, through which poked heavy guns.
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Over 26,000 artefacts were salvaged from the wreck and also the remains of 92 of the ship's crew.

The museum had reconstructions of some of the crew members.  They really were a sight to behold.

Their remains showed that although quite well fed, they had been malnourished in childhood and many of them had rickets and scurvy, arthritis and of course, fractures from the toll of sea life and from violent battles.
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The archer stood before me, peering over my head as if distracted by something out at sea.  His mind could have been merely wondering though, about his loved ones back home.

To his left stands his skeleton - a somewhat ironic and uncomfortable out of body experience, brightly lit as if magical.  I looked at the archer's face and then at the empty face of the skull, back and forth, comparing before finally settling on the reconstructed archer's face. 

I don't know if it was just me, but it certainly served as a reminder of that skeleton beneath the skin, which we all possess.  A memento mori, indeed.
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I wanted to know more about `Archer'.  What was his name?

But alas, this particular man was giving up no secrets, save for what he looked like.


His bones did reveal though that he had practised archery since being a small boy. His spine and shoulder bones indicated a lop-sided development significant to archers.
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Anyway, I thought it best not to dwell on this poor man's fate; after all, I am of the opinion that reincarnation or at the very least, some form of afterlife, is a likely concept.  So I moved on and soon became engrossed in the other, marvellous historic exhibits.
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I would definitely recommend that you visit the Mary Rose Museum.  Not only is it crammed packed with items from 16th century Tudor England, it is also housed in a magnificent building, fashioned in such a way reminiscent of a great ship itself.  They've done an incredible job and it's worthy of our support.

Here is a link for the official Mary Rose website:-
http://www.maryrose.org/

All for now..

Matt Cage
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Wild
10/1/2015 06:14:33 am

Yes the Mary Rose certainly is a fascinating and energetically powerful ship. This could get very long ;) ....

I first saw her be raised as a six year old child, and I painted a painting of the raising in class. It must have been good because the teacher brought in the teacher from next doors class to come and see for herself.

Later in the school year our school took us to see HMS Warrior as it was being refurbished in Hartlepool. I was also living near where Captain Cook was born and raised so would regularly go in the museum and I entered a competition to name a police horse and I won because I said I would name the horse Endeavour after Captain Cooks ship.

I would go swimming with my friend and the baths we went to had portholes in the pool. We would swim down and look through them to the other side. But I always had a creeped out feeling when seeing them beneath me in the water...the light shining through them. This creepy feeling was even more so in the deeper part of the pool where it was 12ft6ins deep and the waters was deep blue.

Grew up and moved into a flat where it was on the riverside. There was a harbour feel to the place and also a replica of the Endeavour further up the river which I could see from my balcony. Cool. The day I viewed the flat the river was choppy and looked like the sea...being a scorpio I loved the view and feel. I also enjoyed walking upto the replica ship as it was in the water and you could go on board which I did by myself.

I began having dreams of seeing the Endeavour replica sunk outside my flat on its ride side. I could see it under the water, it didnt look deep but it was definitely sunk. Very strange. I experienced dreams of being on a ship, working on one as a sailor. This happened a lot. I also had repetitive dreams of being back at the baths with the portholes. Also, a couple of people sadly committed suicide by jumping off the bridge from outside my flat and drowning in the river. I would "dream" of them and then wake and tell my boyfriend of my dream, only to look outside window at river and see a dingy boat with divers in it going past my flat full pelt to recover the body. The people I saw in my dream matched the people in the news story following day. I thought I was doing lightwork, but wondered "why connect with me?"

I moved from there but the dreams of the portholes in the baths kept plaguing me. Nothing seemingly sinister, just of being in those baths and being near the portholes. But I knew there was a message somewhere.

So I decided to start googling those baths that were knocked down. There were some pics of the famous portholes from the other side and the uniformed holes in the walls just looked really foreboding to me. I cant recall how I managed to come back round to the Mary Rose but I did. But then I moved to near Whitby and found a spirit guide who comes across as a rough sailor but is really an admiral. He deals with past lives my friend says (she worked with him a lot). I think this is when I had the dream of being inside a ship, it tilting sharply and forcefully and water spilling in through a port in the side of the ship. In dream I instinctively leaned upon a solid oak timber structure because it had felt so sturdy before...but now it was no use. We were sinking. I was under water water absolutely panicking. Ugh it was horrible and I would wake up in terror. Now the connection was made, I continue to dream of being on a sinking ship, seeing the wood, and feeling the whole scenario again. I also have dreams of being in the museum and having major butterflies as I am approaching the old girl and seeing her again.

Theres so many synchronicities that spring up in my life that lead back to this ship. My furniture...lol...well I bought some wooden rosemary beads to wear and my plates and coffee table look like ive just nicked them from the museum. I bought these before becoming aware of the connection. I have a very strong resonance with driftwood pieces. A mirror I have is very similar in size a shape to the gun ports and is made of driftwood. I feel that driftwood is powerful energetically because it has grown from the earth as a wise tree, goes out to sea and absorbs the energies of the sea and its salt, then washes back up on earth. It becomes magical. Well what is the Mary Rose but a great piece of driftwood? Add to that many lives lost who were blamed for the sinking when in fact it was King Henry VIII's fault and its no wonder it has stirred up so much emotions in people.

Ive put myself in regressive states, which have been revealing. A friend in this life was with me in that life. As we were underwater I saw their face infront of me. We knew we were about to die and we drowned with each others hands upon each others shoulders, as men and friends together. In other dreams I have been aware of the soldiers from the top decks who drowned because their amour made it impossible to swim. There was a regression of seeing the ship

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Matt link
21/1/2015 10:28:59 am

Dear Wild, thank you very much for commenting on our blog and please accept our apologies for not noticing your comment and for not responding sooner.

Your fascinating account isp very suggestive of past life memories. Given the remarkable details, it is difficult to arrive at any other conclusion isn't it?

Our webmaster and editor, Denham, also has a nautical past life too, it seems. I will try and encourage him to give his account in this blog, although he is generally quite cagey about the experience.

Best wishes,
Matt


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